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	<title>Comments on: Shame on Ubuntu&#8230;Horaay for Ubuntu!</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://jaebird.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/shame-on-ubuntuhoraay-for-ubuntu/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never got hit by this bug, but I think that&#039;s indicative of just how difficult it is to test patches before they are sent out to the world.  Canonical and the entire Ubuntu developer community cannot possibly have every combination of hardware and software at their disposal.  Even mighty Microsoft, which has enough people and money to test at least a goodly portion of their target systems, has sent out dozens or hundreds of updates that broke things.

The fact is, most of the develpers who create this stuff are probably running their systems the Right Way.  Everything is likely done as it should be.  Then there are the real users who Just Don&#039;t Care, and are probably running all sorts of things that should probably have already broken their systems.  Don&#039;t be too hard on the packagers, though.  They obviously did a good job of fixing the problem quickly once they realized what they had done.

You do point out something that is probably true:  an emergency rollback feature for updates would be a handy thing to have.  But do you know just how many times I&#039;ve turned off Windows XP&#039;s rollback feature simply because it was the cause of the problems?  We don&#039;t need that kind of thing in the Linux world.  Oh, look... I have more updates to install now.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never got hit by this bug, but I think that&#8217;s indicative of just how difficult it is to test patches before they are sent out to the world.  Canonical and the entire Ubuntu developer community cannot possibly have every combination of hardware and software at their disposal.  Even mighty Microsoft, which has enough people and money to test at least a goodly portion of their target systems, has sent out dozens or hundreds of updates that broke things.</p>
<p>The fact is, most of the develpers who create this stuff are probably running their systems the Right Way.  Everything is likely done as it should be.  Then there are the real users who Just Don&#8217;t Care, and are probably running all sorts of things that should probably have already broken their systems.  Don&#8217;t be too hard on the packagers, though.  They obviously did a good job of fixing the problem quickly once they realized what they had done.</p>
<p>You do point out something that is probably true:  an emergency rollback feature for updates would be a handy thing to have.  But do you know just how many times I&#8217;ve turned off Windows XP&#8217;s rollback feature simply because it was the cause of the problems?  We don&#8217;t need that kind of thing in the Linux world.  Oh, look&#8230; I have more updates to install now.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://jaebird.wordpress.com/2006/08/22/shame-on-ubuntuhoraay-for-ubuntu/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using the Ubuntu CD will boot a LiveCD, which will most likely allow the poor soul a web browser (or use lynx, not a Joe Sixpack fix tho). I don&#039;t deny that some people are still having problems, however the fix is there. The issue is how much damage did someone do to their system when it first broke by overreacting. My system broke too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using the Ubuntu CD will boot a LiveCD, which will most likely allow the poor soul a web browser (or use lynx, not a Joe Sixpack fix tho). I don&#8217;t deny that some people are still having problems, however the fix is there. The issue is how much damage did someone do to their system when it first broke by overreacting. My system broke too.</p>
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		<title>By: nikos</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to see www.ubuntuforums.org if there is no display?Do you know that this flaw still exists as an update?Having a community support doesn&#039;t happen only for ubuntu, even commercial products have great community support.Windows2000 have an option for unistalling updates, Ubuntu is very slow to follow. I am using Ubuntu in a testing networking environment and I think this is the only place where linux has advantges,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to see <a href="http://www.ubuntuforums.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubuntuforums.org</a> if there is no display?Do you know that this flaw still exists as an update?Having a community support doesn&#8217;t happen only for ubuntu, even commercial products have great community support.Windows2000 have an option for unistalling updates, Ubuntu is very slow to follow. I am using Ubuntu in a testing networking environment and I think this is the only place where linux has advantges,</p>
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